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Osgood Peabody
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posted March 18, 2003 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Osgood Peabody        Reply w/Quote
My theory is this - we're on a 4 week cycle:

Feb. 12 (Dynamic Duo)
Mar. 12 (Original date for Spectre)
Apr. 9 (Legion 12)
May 7 (JLA 8)
Jun. 4 (Superman 6)

That means July will bring us 2 releases on the 2nd and 30th.

My hunch is Challs was held back to be solicited with another archive, because it's a slimmer volume, and a bit of an experiment.

So I think we'll get Challs on July 2nd, and All-Star 9 on July 30th.

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James Friel
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posted March 18, 2003 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
Challengers and All-Star is my guess too.

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DavidSpofforth
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posted March 18, 2003 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DavidSpofforth   Click Here to Email DavidSpofforth        Reply w/Quote
Phew, I thought from the subject title there was going to be a archive of Legion of Substitute-Heroes ;-)

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NecessaryImpurity
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posted March 18, 2003 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NecessaryImpurity        Reply w/Quote
I think Osgood's onto something with the 4-week thing. Except for the Archive hard- cores on this board, I think a Challengers and All-Star solicitation would see little overlap (and besides, they are 4 weeks apart!). Makes as much sense as anything.

Next month, when we play "Predict the Solicitaion" and everyone has Challs and ASC, aren't we going to look foolish when it's Supergirl and GA Green Lantern?

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jape
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posted March 18, 2003 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jape   Click Here to Email jape        Reply w/Quote
I'm sticking with Challs and All-Star as my July predictions. It's like the lottery - as soon as you change your numbers, they're bound to get drawn.

Of course, with the Teen Titans cartoon series debuting in August, I reckon we're due for a Titans archive sometime this summer...

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dylanfan
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posted March 18, 2003 02:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dylanfan   Click Here to Email dylanfan        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NecessaryImpurity:
Next month, when we play "Predict the Solicitaion" and everyone has Challs and ASC, aren't we going to look foolish when it's Supergirl and GA Green Lantern?

Not wanting to look like a fool, I think July will see Supergirl and GA Green Lantern.

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srca1941
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posted March 18, 2003 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for srca1941   Click Here to Email srca1941        Reply w/Quote
Challengers seems a safe bet and Osgood's reasoning was sound in my opinion.

I'll say Challengers and either All-Star vol.9 (since it was at this time last year and we've had a good deal of Silver Age material so far this year), Hawkman vol.2 (since the monthly is doing well), or Atom vol.2 (since Bob hinted at this one or Hawkman by year's end).

What I wouldn't expect with Challengers:

*Another #1. We've had a good deal of those already this year, and I doubt there will be 2 in one month.

*Supergirl vol.2. With Superman in July, there's no way they're going to release another super-book a month later. However, I'm not going to rule this one out by year's end. We're still expecting that oversized volume, and this fits the bill. Besides, it's not unheard of. DC doubled up in 2001 with Supergirl vol.1 and Action vol.3 just a few months apart.

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James Friel
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posted March 18, 2003 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by srca1941:

*Supergirl vol.2. With Superman in July, there's no way they're going to release another super-book a month later. However, I'm not going to rule this one out by year's end. We're still expecting that oversized volume, and this fits the bill. Besides, it's not unheard of. DC doubled up in 2001 with Supergirl vol.1 and Action vol.3 just a few months apart.

-Steve


OK, here's today's puzzler:
There will be two months this year with two DC Archives.All others will have one, most with other major hardcovers as well.
There will be a GA Superman volume in June.
There will be a GA Batman some time later in the year.
Assume that there will also be volumes of Supergirl and of World's Finest.
Neither Supergirl nor World's Finest should appear in the same month or a month adjacent to each other or to Superman.
World's Finest shouldn't appear in the same month or adjacent to Batman.
How many possibilities are there?
(I haven't worked it out)

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Mark Katzoff
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posted March 18, 2003 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mark Katzoff   Click Here to Email Mark Katzoff        Reply w/Quote
I'm going to join the Challs/All-Star bandwagon. A while back, I predicted that All-Star would come out the same month as JSA 50, which is July.

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Lightning + Chemicals
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posted March 18, 2003 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightning + Chemicals        Reply w/Quote
I'll try the scheduling challenge....
"OK, here's today's puzzler: There will be two months this year with two DC Archives.All others will have one, most with other major hardcovers as well. There will be a GA Superman volume in June. There will be a GA Batman some time later in the year. Assume that there will also be volumes of Supergirl and of World's Finest. Neither Supergirl nor World's Finest should appear in the same month or a month adjacent to each other or to Superman. World's Finest shouldn't appear in the same month or adjacent to Batman. How many possibilities are there?"

JULY: Challengers #1 and Batman #6 (5 months after B D#1 and 5 months before WF#3)

AUGUST: All Star #9 & SPIRIT #11

SEPTEMBER: Supergirl #2 & Tor #3

OCTOBER: TBD & TBD (DC doubleheader, at least one #1)

NOVEMBER: Plastic Man #5 & Thunder Agents #2

DECEMBER: Worlds Finest #3 & Spirit #12

I would also assume ElfQuest #1 to ship in July.....

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Lightning + Chemicals
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posted March 19, 2003 11:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightning + Chemicals        Reply w/Quote
OK, I've been thinking about this some more.... Osgood has cracked the code. I think the real schedule/pattern here is a hardcover archive every two weeks / DC-specific one every four weeks. Consequently, my revised predictions starting in July:

July 2: Batman #6 (DC)
July 16: Elfquest #1
July 30: Challengers of the Unknown #1 (DC)
August 13: All Star #9 (DC)
August 27: Spirit #11
September 10: Supergirl #2 (DC)
September 24: Tor #3
October 8: GA Hawkman #1 (DC)
October 22: Atom #2 (DC)
November 5: Thunder Agents #3
November 19: Plastic Man #5 (DC)
December 3: Spirit #12
December 17: Worlds Finest #3 (DC)

NOTES:
1). This adds up to 8 more DC Archives -- 14 for the year.
2). GA Batman #6 in July places it equally between Batman Dynamic Duo in February and WF #3 in December.
3). GA Hawkman allows for annual Silver/Gold Hawkman rotation, and provides a new #1 in 2H03.
4). Extra-length archive hinted at by Bob G. is Supergirl #2 which will fall into a 2 year rotation like Wonder Woman, Worlds Finest and hopefully, Doom Patrol.
5). I selected Atom #2 as the extra DC archive for October -- simply because I liked #1 so much -- Fox/Kane/Anderson were pros -- everything that was great about the DC Silver Age.

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India Ink
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posted March 20, 2003 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for India Ink        Reply w/Quote
Wow! All-Star Comics on my birthday! I think I'm gonna cry. Really guys, that's awfully touching >choke<.

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KryptoSuperDog
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posted March 20, 2003 01:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KryptoSuperDog        Reply w/Quote
Well that sucks. All I got on my birthday is Thunder Agents #3. Ya wanna hear a rotten story? I spent about 17 years tracking down every single issue of the 60s Thunder Agents, (Dynamo #4 and TA #15 are terribly hard to come by). The second I finally found a copy of Dynamo #4 was just a week before DC announced their steeenking Archives series. Bah!

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NecessaryImpurity
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posted March 20, 2003 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NecessaryImpurity        Reply w/Quote
I get Atom #2 the day after my birthday. Cool! I started college as a physics major (finished in math) so physicists like Ray are big-time heroes to me. Oh, and the super-heroics are kind of fun too.

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James Friel
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posted March 20, 2003 02:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
My birthday is this Sunday, so The Spectre is my birthday present. Spooooky....

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Lightning + Chemicals
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posted March 31, 2003 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lightning + Chemicals        Reply w/Quote
Based on the AlterEgo Bob Greenberger scoop, I am slightly modifying my 2003 predictions:

July 2: Dark Knight #4 (DC)
July 16: Elfquest #1
July 30: Challengers of the Unknown #1 (DC)
August 13: All Star #9 (DC)
August 27: Spirit #11
September 10: SA Superboy #1 (DC)
September 24: Tor #3
October 8: GA Hawkman #1 (DC)
October 22: Atom #2 (DC)
November 5: Thunder Agents #3
November 19: Plastic Man #5 (DC)
December 3: Spirit #12
December 17: Worlds Finest #3 (DC)

NOTES:
1). This adds up to 8 more DC Archives -- 14 for the year.
2). Dark Knight #4 in July places it equally between Batman Dynamic Duo in February and WF #3 in December.
3). GA Hawkman allows for annual Silver/Gold Hawkman rotation, and provides a new #1 in 2H03.

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Fiery Jack
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posted March 31, 2003 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fiery Jack   Click Here to Email Fiery Jack        Reply w/Quote
Challs just before my birthday, All-Star shortly thereafter. Works for me.

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daprof
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posted March 31, 2003 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for daprof   Click Here to Email daprof        Reply w/Quote
Lightning, although your prediction could come true, Bob said Challengers would appear in Summer and All Star would appear in Fall. So you might want to make a slight change in your prediction.

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James Friel
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posted March 31, 2003 12:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
Hmmm..
OK, I'm sticking with Challengers for July.
Assuming the other title is Golden Age, which seems likely, then it's likely to be either the GA Batman volume (presumably Batman 6) or the unnamed GA volume 1 if that volume is not Superboy--they aren't likely to do Superman and Superboy in consecutive months. I don't think they're going to do Plastic Man before winter (if we get a volume this year--we have no guarantee of that).
Since we're now told we'll get Atom 2 this year (and not, presumably, therefore Hawkman 2), that once again opens up the possibility that the unnamed Golden Age vol.1 is Hawkman.

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Schatzie
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posted March 31, 2003 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Schatzie        Reply w/Quote
My guess for the July Archive is FLASH Vol. 4.

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NecessaryImpurity
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posted March 31, 2003 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NecessaryImpurity        Reply w/Quote
I agree that Superboy won't appear anytime soon. It'll be late in the year if it happens at all. It wasn't that long ago that Bob said it was off the schedule, and even if they started work on it the next day, these things take time.

Knowing 6 GA volumes, and that Spectre and Superman are accounted for, and that All-Star is a fall release this year, and assuming that Plastic Man (if it shows) is also a fall release, that leaves Batman, or the new #1. Batman seems too recent with Dynamic Duo. The new #1 seems unlikely given that Challengers is a #1 too.

Maybe a July double-up is another SA. What would make a good SA contrast to Challengers? I would have thought Legion of JLA, but that didn't happen. Green Lantern or Flash? I don't think it's Atom, because it wasn't that long ago we helped Bob decide the content s (with or without the B&B story), so unless they were well on the way on that book, I don't think we'll see it before fall.

Hmmm, I'm going to say Challengers and Flash or Green Lantern. I'll have to get off the fence before the solicitation in 3 weeks, but right now I can't decide.

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Osgood Peabody
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posted March 31, 2003 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Osgood Peabody        Reply w/Quote
Since All-Star 9 is now apparently off the table for July, I'm going with Supergirl 2 as the companion to Challengers.

It's been nearly 8 months since Bob first told us about the oversized volume - it's bound to turn up sooner or later, right?

It also harmonizes nicely - one slim volume, one fat volume solicited together.

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posted March 31, 2003 12:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for friend   Click Here to Email friend        Reply w/Quote
June Superman
July Supergirl

This is like a case of viagra...

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James Friel
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posted March 31, 2003 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for James Friel   Click Here to Email James Friel        Reply w/Quote
I don't think the second July volume, if it's also Silver Age, will be Superman-related.
Doom Patrol seems similar to Challengers--offbeat super-adventure.
So I'll agree with vze2 that Flash or Green Lantern seems, of the Silver Age candidates, to be most likely.
I'll go with Flash, because it appeared a few months earlier than the latest GL volume and because I think those two should stay even in number of volumes.

But I still think it's probably a GA volume.

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Osgood Peabody
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posted March 31, 2003 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Osgood Peabody        Reply w/Quote
In 2001, the first Supergirl volume was released just 2 months after a Superman in Action volume, so this would not be unprecedented.

Remember also if Supergirl 2 were released on July 30th, it would be 8 weeks after Superman 6, so I don't think it would be an issue.

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